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đ Episode 14: Bustinâ More Real Estate Myths
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Hey, y'all! đ¸Spring Market is in full swing and the gals are BUSTIN' MORE REAL ESTATE MYTHS in this final episode of Season 1. Recorded earlier this year, Liz, Ciara and Leah are dishing the dirt on:
â°When's the Best Time to Buy and List
đ New Builds
â Why Pre-Inspections Can Be Money Well-Spent
đOpen Houses
đ¤Śââď¸Why Calling the Agent on the For Sale sign is a BAD IDEA
and much, much more!
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Welcome back to another edition of Nobody Listens to Liz. I'm Leah Frederick. I'm Liz Eric Sykes, and I'm Sierra Peluso. And we are realtors actually serving the Kentucky and Ohio areas. This is where we talk about all things related to real estate. Uh so for buyers, sellers, try and kick me again. Playing Footsies. Sorry, just playing Footsies with me. You can't see it.
SPEAKER_03Hello.
SPEAKER_02But today we're gonna bust some myths. We're gonna bust some myths on. Bust, we're gonna bust you up. That's when the sign would come and require.
SPEAKER_00I wonder if our listeners have ever heard any real estate myths.
SPEAKER_02That's a very good question. If you heard some, drop them below below. Because we'd love to hear them. I know I've heard a couple. We'd love to bust them up. We'd like to bust them up.
SPEAKER_01So okay, so we can laugh. Liz. We can laugh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. All right. Funny story. Um nobody's listening, anyways. Oh they are. Yeah. She she doesn't want to do this. We're making her do this. Um, okay, so one of the things I shared a house and we went to a bunch of houses, and um my client, the buyer, would determan. I mean, I I would I was giving them an idea, I mean, they told me what they were looking for, and we go into each house, and she's like, nope. I remember her not going to the basement because it had bad juju. Um, so that was an interesting experience. A client that knows what they want. Yeah, they do know what they want. That is true. That is true. But you know, they were gonna, you know, the other house are like, oh yeah, this is the house we're gonna get. And so, yeah, the idea of, oh, we're not gonna, we don't need an inspection. This is the house kind of thing. Don't do that. No. All right, so um, myth number one. Oh, I should wait for the market to crash. I should wait for this. You should.
SPEAKER_01And when you know when that is, please tell me in advance.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I want to be ready for the next one.
SPEAKER_01Please tell me.
SPEAKER_00So if somebody knows when it's gonna happen, yeah, let us know. Let me know if you got a crystal ball out there.
SPEAKER_02That magic eight ball would become really in handy right now. Yeah. So yeah. Um the reality, I think, in this, we were talking about this actually uh maybe last week or so. About how, you know, we had the COVID time and then 2000-2004, it's been a little crazy, and it's been a seller's market. Um, but now things have slowed down. We're moving into a buyer's market. Some of us have already experiencing that. And then it's going back to more of a seasonal market. Would you agree with that? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Seasonal market being you want to seasonal market is yes. One word answer. Yes.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_02Seasonal market. So is this a talking show? It is a talking show. See what I gotta deal with, y'all. This is what I gotta deal with. So seasonal market. All right, so traditionally spring is the hot time to buy. Um, holiday slows down, winter slows down. Would you agree that's a good take on the seasonal market?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sometimes Sierra has nothing else to say. Yes, sometimes it is. However, winter market is really good because you have so much less competition as a seller. And as a buyer, you don't have near as much competition. Right. Right? So you're not fighting for those houses, you are not um having to give up things that you would normally want in your offer to get the deal done. You're not having to weigh overpay the from the list price, um, do appraisal gaps, that kind of thing, because you don't have as much competition. So it's kind of nice for sellers and buyers during the winter. Um, I mean, whenever you're ready to buy is the perfect time to buy.
SPEAKER_02I like the more inclement months because I like showing houses when it rains. Any of the bad weather, that's when you want to show houses because that's when the secrets are revealed. The house reveals what's really going on. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_00If you are spraying your rain boots, yeah, if you are shopping for a house, it is not a bad thing to go in the rain or the snow. Yeah. And also visiting the house multiple times a day. So um different times of the day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So maybe drive through the neighborhood at night and first thing in the morning. There might be a yappy dog next door that you want to know about, or there could be some shady characters out at night, and you don't know.
SPEAKER_02Maybe at uh 464 West Second is now an active listing, and the neighbor back there has both a yappy dog and kind of shady smile.
SPEAKER_00Uh so I'm like, check, check. But you want to know those things.
SPEAKER_02You do want to know those things. That's a good suggestion. Very good suggestion. So yeah. Um, waiting for the perfect deal, of course, means missing the right one. And yeah, break down the cost of waiting versus buying at a higher rate or a later price. We've talked about that. Okay, the myth number two. And it's so funny because I just had this conversation with a seller. They're like, yeah, we're thinking of waiting till spring to sell, because spring is the best time to sell.
SPEAKER_00Why is it not? More competition.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And if your house is not the greatest, it's gonna get overlooked.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. It sure is, it sure is. Yeah, yeah. And if you're ready now, there's less competition on the market. Buyers are still buying, more serious buyers, too. Yes, more serious.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely always more serious buyers in the winter. What's the carrying cost for you to keep it for an extra four months until spring? I still have to pay for it till spring. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you do. And electric over the winter, you gotta pay to keep those pipes from bursting. Yeah. So there's definitely a carrying cost, even if the house is paid off. Yep. Insurance.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, less competition, more visibility, you get stronger offers. Um you also have more visibility because your agent probably has a little bit more time to work on your listing. So if a dozen people want to list on the first Monday of April, that agent doesn't have as much bandwidth and time to focus on your listing and really work on it as they would when they're not quite as busy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I actually plan my wedding around the spring housing market because I knew it would be insane. And I was like, nope, nope, that's off the table. You actually go on vacation now. I don't take vacation in the spring at all.
SPEAKER_01I only sell houses in the spring because that's the only time to list. So the rest of the nine months of the year, I'm in the Bahamas. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So she's being sarcastic.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, not quite. So spring, not feeling time to sell. Right. Right. And making sure all of the things are done in advance. You know, yeah. I will say this. I'm gonna just kind of put a little footnote on this. Putting your house on the market for it's ready to be put on the market.
SPEAKER_00Um good one.
SPEAKER_02Bad idea. Yeah, bad idea.
SPEAKER_01Whether it's, you know, this thing hasn't been fixed, or that sounds like a nightmare.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, or it's not cleaned out, or yeah, I mean, it's not you still got clutter everywhere, lot of chotchke. Bad idea. Because again, first impressions and seven to seven to ten days. The first seven to ten days are your hottest times to be on the market.
SPEAKER_00So and it's funny. Um, I try to explain to people, and usually they don't listen. But hence this podcast. Tell me more. People can't see a bedroom without a bed in it. People don't look at closets the same.
unknownOh no.
SPEAKER_02Somebody left on their cell phone during our recording. Also, things not to do.
SPEAKER_00I had the sound turned all the way down. Um, don't we see it anyway? I know, yeah. Um, no, but people don't see a bedroom without a bed in it, they don't see an office without a desk in it, they don't see closets the same if they don't have anything in them for. Are you talking about staging? Yes. So um, when you do leave things in your home, it's important to leave some furniture and make sure that it's staged properly. Yes.
SPEAKER_02And there are professionals that do that. Yeah. And are well worth the money if you want to go that route. There's also, I will say, uh certainly the photographers I work with um in Louisville, I think uh our local, our varny does it too, where they can stage it virtually, um, which is always interesting. I like playing the game. Is it staged virtually?
unknownOh yes, it is.
SPEAKER_02You know, uh, because based on the furniture choices, like everything's mid-century modern. Yeah. Everything. Everything's perfect. Everything is mid-century modern. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a big fan. I see, I'm not a big fan. I grew up in mid-century modern. That's my parents' generation. I yeah, I'm like, get it out of here. I don't want it. So okay, uh, new builds. Yeah, new builds. New builds are perfect. That's another myth, aren't they?
SPEAKER_01They never have any problem. Correct. Never. Never seen one have an issue.
SPEAKER_02But they have a warranty, they'd be fine, right?
SPEAKER_00From the same builder that built it for you.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. So, yeah, usually inspections, good idea, bad idea.
SPEAKER_00Inspections are great, especially on new builds. Well, I wouldn't say especially, I mean they're good for any home.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would always get an inspection, even you know, I would say that you know multiple inspections on a new build for each stage, each element and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Because to pre-drywall, after drywall, making sure the studs look good when they go up and the house is actually square. Your pictures are gonna hang right. Um, that would be step one that the roof was installed properly because you you know it should be the roof's important, yeah. You want those things to last. Yeah, yeah. And you want to know they're right before you spend that kind of money to move in a brand new house and it's not spend the money on an inspection.
SPEAKER_01It really is worth it. It is worth it.
SPEAKER_00No matter what you're buying, spend the money on an inspection and title insurance. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02Oh yes, yeah, yeah. You know, we I just actually had a situation where we um did a pre-inspection before putting an offer in. In fact, well, they ended up not putting an offer in because of the inspection. And you know, I said, listen, it's up to you what you want to do, but it was a good choice.
SPEAKER_01I think there are other markets that actually do that. Yes, that do inspections before before putting an offer in.
SPEAKER_02Well, and even selling your house. Um, that is something that we're doing with inspection before listening. Um, because if there's little things that you know would be called out that or even material defects, big things, um, you know, you want to attend to those.
SPEAKER_01So I would especially recommend pre-inspections on your on your home if you are buying a house before listing and you're gonna be paying the two mortgages. You don't want anything to come up unexpected when your house is listed, and you also have already bought another house. And you can share that inspection.
SPEAKER_02That pre-inspection. Yeah, I I mean I've attended any number of you know showings where the inspection is right there. So you know what's going on with the house in advance. So it's even better than the disclosure, you know, disclosures sometimes miss things out, and yeah, the inspector's gonna call it, okay, yeah, this, this, this, perhaps.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, a pre-inspection before listing is never a bad idea. Yeah, you know what you're working with, you can fix the things that you can fix, um, and you can let the buyer know what they're getting into.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And the the inspections are worth being four and six hundred dollars or something like that.
SPEAKER_00So in our area. In our area. So well worth the money. Yeah. I think well worth the money. To know what you're getting into because there's repairs that could be thousands upon thousands of dollars if you don't know about them. Yeah. But I'd rather spend four to six hundred dollars and know about them or have the seller fix them before I buy it. Yes, than buy it and be stuck with those. Yep.
SPEAKER_02We've got I've got a deal right now where the seller had no idea his roof, his complete roof, um, quoted at $60,000 to fix. Oh my goodness. Uh, had so much hail damage. Oh no. Yeah. Well, you don't get up there often. Well, exactly. I mean, really, you know, who's I haven't been on my roof, so you know, why would I? Of course not. I never get up there.
SPEAKER_01Just once a year for Christmas lights. Really? Do you do it?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01So you don't even do that? No, my husband.
SPEAKER_00No, that's not you.
SPEAKER_01No. No. But you clean out your gutters, right?
SPEAKER_00No, twice. We're supposed to clean out our gutters. Home maintenance. I mean, that's a whole other gutter, isn't it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, well, there you go.
SPEAKER_01Sponsor.
SPEAKER_00Those are supposed to be terrible for your gutters. Really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't know why.
SPEAKER_00We're not on a sponsorship.
SPEAKER_01Maybe they can. I've actually great. I've actually never heard that. Really? No, and I've had them on two houses. Oh. I've never heard of them. I've had them on my house. No.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Why? Or they're terrible for it.
SPEAKER_01Because they keep them clean. I don't remember. Keep the big stuff from clogging the cutters. I don't remember why, but I've heard that doesn't really make sense to me as to why they would be bad for the gutters.
SPEAKER_00You know what? I'll have to find out and get back to you.
SPEAKER_01Okay, please do. Yeah. If you guys know why, drop it in the comments.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because I'm curious too. It doesn't even make sense.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm curious.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I'm the one that had it. I know she's all right. Another myth. Open houses. Sell homes. This is always, you know, when I make up my list of things that I'm going to do for my sellers. Open houses is on the list. Yeah. So talk to me about open houses and you know, really what why do we have open houses? To sell a house.
SPEAKER_01To get buyers. Are we lying?
SPEAKER_02Both are true. Both are true, right? So open houses opportunity to promote your listing. Yeah. Um, and it does make the sellers happy. Of course, they want to see foot traffic through there.
SPEAKER_01Um you do get potential buyers through the house. You do, you do, anytime.
SPEAKER_00And you have time to create more content for that property, which is great. And that markets the property. But you know my favorite person to come through the open house? Neighbors. Yes. The nosiest one you've got. Preferably all of them.
SPEAKER_01I like the gossip one. Tell me who got a job change, who's moving, tell me. Tell me the deep of this neighborhood.
SPEAKER_02Also, they can they can disclose things about the property that nobody knew or remembered or what have you.
SPEAKER_00And maybe they know and the seller didn't know. Exactly. Um but I like them because nobody has more stake in who's gonna buy your house and wants a better person to buy your house than your nosy neighbors, especially the nosiest. If they got nose problems, that's your biggest advocate to sell your house because they want to know who's going in there. Yeah, and sometimes they'll know somebody.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Yep. And they're gonna want them in there. I mean, I know that's the current status with we we want, you know, I've showed my neighbor's house a couple times. I love my neighbors, right? Your neighbor's house is listed right now. Yes, my neighbor's house is listed right now. With one of our agents, yes, and uh 464, West Second in Maysville, Kentucky. Call me. Neighbors have the yappy dog. Oh, you're the neighbor with the yappy dog. Shady character and shady character, yeah. Oh, you're the shady character.
SPEAKER_00I could see that after 10 p.m.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, you know, but it is, you know, I I have really good neighbors, and um it's it's a really it's a unique spot. We've got lots of stairs, of course. But yeah, you want a community, you end up creating kind of a microcommunity.
SPEAKER_01I will also add to the open house is that your agent should be doing a lot of pre-marketing before the open house. Yes, and a lot of times that will generate a lot more private showings.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, if you can, I I mean, I recommend two weeks, but then my background was marketing and stuff because two weeks does help get the word out. But I mean, this this listing I had local, I had five days. Yeah, but I knew I knew I checked the weather, the weather was gonna be okay, you know, and I was like, well, and jump on it. Um, and it just works schedule-wise.
SPEAKER_00So I'm at some folks show up. And we have a whole marketing plan with it. So the object at the open house is not to sell the house. Every once in a while, that does happen. Um, but the object of the open house really is just to help and push marketing and maybe get some lookers in there. Look if you lose um actual buyers, neighbors, that kind of thing, because that's what you need. The more people that know about the house, that know what it looks like, the easier a buyer's gonna be to come across.
SPEAKER_02And you only need one. That's it. Just one. Yeah. All right. Good point. This is gonna be your favorite myth. Another myth. Uh, using the listing agent, uh, in other words, calling the number on the sign outside the property you want to look at uh will get you a better deal. Liz, would you like to talk about that? It'll get you a better deal.
SPEAKER_00How will it get you a better deal? I would like to know more. I wonder why people do think this. Why do people think that they're gonna get a better deal if they use the agent on the sign? I didn't think it was a better deal.
SPEAKER_02Okay, full disclosure, yes, we've talked about this before. Liz was my realtor. I called the number on the side.
SPEAKER_00I almost wasn't your realtor. Yes, because I called you the number on the sign.
SPEAKER_02Frankly, I didn't think about getting a better deal. That wasn't it. I just thought convenient, I could actually look at the house. And I wanted to look at the house, and there was the number, so I was like, well, I'll call them. I didn't know anything about dual agency, I didn't know anything about, oh, maybe I shouldn't like have somebody in my corner to represent me in my interests. Yes. So it was a good thing that we ran into each other on the street, literally. Because I had just called to make you, oh yeah, I just made an appointment to see your house. What? Yeah, let's meet. Okay, let's cancel that appointment. Yeah, okay, yeah. And then she showed me the house and the history.
SPEAKER_00You want somebody working for you. If you call the number on the sign at the listing, you're getting the agent that is working for the seller. Just so we're clear, they're working for the seller. Their duty, even if they do take you on, their duty is to that seller. Um, they do have some duties to you as well. They can do dual agency in our states we work in, but their primary duty is to that seller, not to you. Now, if you go and get your own agent, their duty is to you as the buyer's agent and they're working for you. So you want your own advocate. Don't be like Leah, don't call the number on the sign. Call your local trusted friendly realtor to show you the house. And we can show houses.
SPEAKER_01And you sometimes don't have to pay for that. And if you watched the episode before this, we explain what that means.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you might get us for free. But yeah, any agent can show any house no matter who the listing agent is with the sign in the yard. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What was the myth again? The myth was that they can give you a better deal. The listing agent can give you a better deal. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So they're just gonna give you a discount because you called them. Yeah. So they're making more money either way.
SPEAKER_02They think people get uh the discounts, you know.
SPEAKER_00I guess is the I mean they've got it listed, they're gonna get paid for that. If you come in as the buyer and they represent you, they'll get paid for that too. I don't know where you're getting a discount, but they're making a lot more money. Yeah, and still pretty much working for the seller.
SPEAKER_02Maybe they think it's it's easier uh because it's a one-stop shop kind of thing. I'm not sure. It's easier because it's a one-sided deal.
SPEAKER_00It is one-sided deal. The seller's gonna get the best deal out of the whole shebang.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because it's one-sided seller, seller sided, seller side, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Get your own agent. Um, I heard something very recently that most people know at least 12 or real estate agents.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I got 12. Wow, so we were counting. And if you think about it, you probably do. I mean, we know more than that. But the average person typically knows 12 agents. 12 agents. So that's kind of crazy and stuff. And you know, just because your aunt is a realtor doesn't necessarily mean that might be the best realtor for you. We talked about selling real estate with families earlier today. Families are the best customers. They're the best. I'm so glad. I love working with my family. Yeah. Part-time agents.
SPEAKER_02We love you, but you're the worst client sometimes. I didn't say it. I did. We say that with love. We with love. So yeah, so there's myth there. Yes, so you get less representation. The dual agencies, again, it is legal in which you're representing both sides of the deal. Unfortunately, in our states in Kentucky and Ohio. It's not legal everywhere. But yeah, I mean, if you feel you get better representation, I'm sure you can find another realtor or real estate agents.
SPEAKER_00So there's lots of things that are legal that are not a good idea. Yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02There's a nugget right there. That's a myth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Explain. Next episode. Let me think of a few.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. All right. So uh yeah. I love the your the BS can detector toolkit.
SPEAKER_03Oh is that what we're sending out for these guys? Yes. All right.
SPEAKER_02So uh it is learn to question the advice you hear from TikTok, Zillow, Uncle Kevin. Yeah. I love that. I actually had a client um whose I'm not joking, whose mother's boyfriend's sister, I think, was an agent. Okay, so there's like several degrees of separation. In California, totally different market, y'all. And so uh I know when we sold my family house uh down in Newport, Kentucky, you know, uh my sibling has well, my friend's and you know, an agent in Louisiana, and he only gets percent. I don't know why we're paying percent. Well, you don't understand the whole concept. Oh, what's that? Probably shouldn't use percentages on the internet. X percent. That's right. X percent. Okay, we'll take that out.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, learn to question the advice you hear from TikTok fill over uncle Kevin. There's a lot of great advice on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01There really is like because we're gonna be in TikTok and we have great advice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we'll just make sure, just listen to us. Yeah. But there is some good advice, but you also have to be careful because what people like to do on the internet is give you tidbits of information without giving you the entire picture. So you still want a real estate advisor who works, lives, and breathes in the community to make sure that you're making the correct efforts on a house, whether you're buying or selling or you know what's going on, and really explain the process because TikTok hopefully, at least I don't think, they can sell your house for you or help you buy a house. And I can whoever say that way, but I don't know. AI's got a long way to go, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we have a whole thing on that. So yeah, you want to work with professionals who educate, um, not manipulate. I find that very interesting. So, yeah, to educate.
SPEAKER_00Um Yeah, make sure it's somebody you trust. Unfortunately, there are some agents that really are just in it for the paycheck, and they might be comments for the name drops. They might not know all the answers and they might not be diligent enough to find them out for you.
SPEAKER_02Or they don't care. Yeah, they don't. I didn't say that either. No, she didn't say it either. So uh don't worry, nobody listens to you anyway. All right, so if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. It probably is. I think you all know that. Um, always ask who benefits from this advice. Your best weapon is information. Um, and you know, again, if you're hearing from multiple sources, it's usually um a better kind of scenario. Sometimes you hear some wacky stuff out there, particularly on social media platforms.
SPEAKER_00And we just had an agent um in Ohio that got in trouble for some shady stuff. If you are ever concerned about what your agent is asking you to do, if they're asking you for money up front for anything, if they are asking you to pay for things or reimburse them for items, if they are asking you to do anything that makes you uncomfortable, please call another agent or that brokerage and ask for the manager or the broker. Right. And just ask, hey, they're asking me to do XYZ. I just want to make sure this is kosher, I just want to make sure this is normal. You can what's the deal? Bother us. We all just want you to bother us. Bother us. Bother your local realtor. They want to have these conversations, they're happy to help. If you aren't comfortable just calling anybody, call their that brokerage manager or broker because just want you to stay protected.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately, that's part of the business.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's an element, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's an element of the business, and you know, we're realtors. I think for that reason, I know that's for me because I follow a code of ethics and I do that gladly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that's different realtor and a real estate. Just like any profession, there are bad seeds in every profession, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So but if you're ever uncomfortable, ask the question to someone else.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You can always DM us too, you know. So anyway, but if you would like Liz's BS detector toolkit, just uh DM myths. That's easy for me to say, right? Myths. Sibylance, myths. I can say S's plurals better in a British accent. There's a fun thing. Miz. Say it right now. See, Miz. No, say the whole sentence in a. If you would like Liz's BS Detector uh toolkit, then comment and DM us Miz and we'll send it to you. I sounded really pompous, didn't I? Okay. Well, I'm Leah Frederick. That's been another episode of Nobody Listens to Zit Liz. Nobody listens to Ziz Ziz Ziz over here.
SPEAKER_01I think it's time for us to go.
SPEAKER_02I think it is. So I'm Leah Frederick. I'm Liz Ericks, and I'm Sierra Peluso. Come back and see us again for more real estate foolishness. No, for advice. And uh we had some good stuff. We had some time. And we have a good time. All right. We'll see you guys next time. Bye.